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Not only slave, but it was hard to tell who was who. Unless someone was 
right there at the moment of conception, it would be hard to state who was 
who with 100 % certainty. This is especially true with very light skinned 
mulattoes, many of whom went north and passed.

Anita


>From: Pat Duncan <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: Discussion of research and writing about Virginia history         
>      <[log in to unmask]>
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>Subject: Re: inter-racial sex acceptable?
>Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 17:07:45 -0600
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>I don't believe that the term is that clear cut. The parentage of slave was
>often unclear.
>
>Note this from http://www.usgennet.org/usa/mo/county/stlouis/slavery.htm
>
>In 1791 there was a sizeable "mulatto" population in St. Louis. 
>Ninety-eight
>total with 23 being free and 75 being slave. While the strict definition of
>the term "mulatto" signifies one of mixed white and black ancestry, it is
>known that some mulattos also had some Indian blood. There was significant
>interbreeding between blacks, Indians and whites in certain segments of
>colonial society that were on the fringes of the frontier. In Missouri, the
>term mulatto and "colored" tended to be interchangeable. Often simply
>meaning being light brown or yellowish skin tone and assuming one being of
>mixed white-black ancestry.
>
>Pat Duncan
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Paul Finkelman" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>; <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2007 4:48 PM
>Subject: Re: [VA-HIST] inter-racial sex acceptable?
>
>
> > mulatto always implied the person was of mixed racial ancestry.
> >
> > Paul Finkelman
> > President William McKinley Distinguished Professor of Law
> >      and Public Policy
> > Albany Law School
> > 80 New Scotland Avenue
> > Albany, New York   12208-3494
> >
> > 518-445-3386
> > [log in to unmask]
> > >>> [log in to unmask] 08/18/07 6:30 PM >>>
> > I believe the term mulatto, as it was used at the time, referred to the
> > color of the skin and not a racial mix. The terms bright mulatto, very
> > bright mulatto, dark mulatto were used to provide better descriptions of
> > the
> > slave. Such descriptions often included notation of scars and other
> > identifying marks.
> >
> > This does not discount the number of interracial sexual relations, but
> > the
> > use of the term mulatto should not be used as proof.
> >
> > Pat Duncan
> > [log in to unmask]
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Paul Finkelman" <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2007 4:25 PM
> > Subject: Re: [VA-HIST] inter-racial sex acceptable?
> >
> >
> > > One measure interracial sex -- crude and not entirely accurate -- is
> > the
> > > number of mulattoes that the census recorded.  This only measures
> > > interracial children -- and only those interracial children that the
> > > census takes notices.  But, that number -- which hugely undercounts
> > > interracial sexual activity -- nevertheless shows that there were an
> > > awful lot of children of slaves mothers who had white fathers. All
> > > evidence from this history of American slavery shows that white men
> > > frequently had sex with slave women.
> > >
> > > Paul Finkelman
> > > President William McKinley Distinguished Professor of Law
> > >      and Public Policy
> > > Albany Law School
> > > 80 New Scotland Avenue
> > > Albany, New York   12208-3494
> > >
> > > 518-445-3386
> > > [log in to unmask]
> > > >>> Heritage Society <[log in to unmask]> 08/18/07 5:55 PM
> > >>>
> > > In the current issue of the UVA Magazine, there is an article "Anatomy
> > > of a Mystery" which addresses the issue of Jefferson's alleged
> > paternity
> > > of slave children. In the article, Lucia Stanton is quoted as saying
> > > that Edmund Bacon (the overseer at Monticello who asserted he knew the
> > > father of Sally Hemings' daughter and that it was not Thomas
> > Jefferson)
> > > had a reputation among Jefferson*s grandchildren as "a great tale
> > teller
> > > and exaggerator." Also, in the article, Peter Onuff was quoted as
> > saying
> > > that, "What we take as the big taboo*crossing the racial boundary*was
> > > the norm in this period. What we think is the worst was then probably
> > > the most acceptable behavior. It happened all over the place." Does
> > > anyone have any references that Bacon was known as "a great tale
> > teller
> > > and exaggerator"? As to whether interracial sex was the "norm" I guess
> > > depends on how "norm" is defined. However, there were laws against it,
> > > so how was it "acceptable"?
> > >
> > > Richard E. Dixon
> > > Editor, Jefferson Notes
> > > Thomas Jefferson Heritage Society
> > > 703-691-0770
> > > fax 703-691-0978
> > >
> >
> >

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