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Would you say then, that many of these terminologies such as Planter, 
Farmer, et al, may be simply a matter of "self perception" or of how a 
person was perceived in his local area?
Hannah Powell

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> The distinctions Professor Finkleman makes between the terms farmer and 
> planter may be a useful terminology for contemporary historians when they 
> write about the Antebellum South, but the distinctions are not based on 
> historical usage and should not be used to draw hidden meanings from the 
> terms as they were used a hundred fifty years ago. Usage was simply not 
> consistent during the Antebellum era. A quick look at the compendium of 
> the 1860 census illustrates these inconsistencies:
>
> The 1860 compendium reports occupations by state. A few examples: AR = 
> 48,475 farmers / 438 planters; KY = 110,937 farmers / 7 planters; NC = 
> 85,198 farmers / 121 planters; SC = 35,137 farmers / 2,521 planters; VA = 
> 108,958 farmers / 80 planters.
>
> The compendium also reports the number of slave-holders who held 20 or 
> more enslaved persons: AR about 500; KY about 1,250; NC about 3,400; SC 
> about 4,700; VA about 5,500.
>
> In these five cases, the terms farmer and planter clearly do not correlate 
> well to the numbers of slaves held, nor do they correlate to what we know 
> about the types of crops being grown and the self-sufficiency of the 
> agricultural units in these four states.
>
> Peter Lysy
> Archivist
> University of Notre Dame
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> Date:    Wed, 1 Jul 2009 08:56:04 -0700
> From:    Paul Finkelman <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Plantations and Farms -- the difference
>
> Two main differences.=A0=20
>
> Farmers raised diverse crops for themselves and the market.=A0 A small 
> farm=
> er in Va. might grow corn, wheat, some small animals, and maybe hay or 
> toba=
> cco for the market.=A0 A planter might be less diversified, and would 
> speci=
> alize in market crops (cotton, tobacco, sugar, rice).=A0 Many plantations 
> b=
> ought most of their food from other sources because it was more profitable 
> =
> to devote all their land and labor to cash crops.=A0 Ohio exported 
> signific=
> ant amounts of pork, for example, to the South.
>
> Planters in the antebellum South had significant numbers of slaves (at 
> leas=
> t 20 is the usually number).=A0 Many farmers had no slaves or only a few.=
> =20
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