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See this URL:
http://www.patc.net/history/archive/spotswood.html
for more info on Spotwood's Golden Horseshoe's.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sunshine49" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 11:03 AM
Subject: Re: Knights of the Golden Horseshoe


> Yes, wouldn't it? Upon reaching the Shenandoah River, they of course  
> feasted and drank more toasts to the King and to his family [one  
> wonders to what degree- 5th cousins? Great-great aunts? Another  
> round, boys!]; the account lists Virginia red wine and white wine,  
> Irish whiskey, brandy, shrub, two kinds of rum, champagne, canary,  
> cherry punch, cider, "etc." Maybe that's why there is no list of the  
> gentlemen along. Everyone forgot who was there, once they got home  
> and their wives made them sober up.
> 
> That could bring up another topic for this group- the amazing  
> alcoholic drinks that were common in the south. "Chatham Artillery  
> Punch" from SC, and I need to look up a similar concoction mixed for  
> the barbeques of the Richmond Light Infantry Blues. Apparently all  
> these local militias had their own recipes. Incredible stuff, they  
> would probably double as paint-stripper.
> 
> After doing more reading I am thinking Rt 33 was not where they  
> crossed, the now-closed road would be more likely. Accounts tell of  
> Spotswood taking tools to engrave the King's name on the highest  
> peak, which they named after him, but the stone was so hard it  
> wouldn't work. Now I used to practically live along the drive, hiked  
> many trails, and have some geology books about Skyline Drive. The  
> stone around Rt 33 is softer, quartzite, shale, sandstones, basalts.  
> Stone engraving tools should have worked on those. But farther north  
> is the Pedlar/ Old Rag granite, some of the oldest rock on earth [1.1  
> billion years] and it is extremely hard. After all, it has withstood  
> weathering for 1.1 billion years! That road would have gone right  
> through an area full of it, right by Old Rag Mountain itself, to the  
> north, and to the south of the road would have been Upper Hawksbill,  
> the highest point; could that have been the "highest mountain" they  
> named for the king? They also reached the Shenandoah River 7 miles  
> after getting down into the valley. A quick look at maps seems to  
> show that the Rt. 33 road was too close to the river; the now-closed  
> road would have been about right.  It makes a lot more sense overall  
> than the Rt. 33 road.
> 
> Nancy
> 
> -------
> I was never lost, but I was bewildered once for three days.
> 
> --Daniel Boone
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 28, 2007, at 10:33 AM, Lonny J. Watro wrote:
> 
>> Sounds like the first American pub crawl - LOL. Would make a good  
>> novel.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sunshine49" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 9:07 PM
>> Subject: Knights of the Golden Horseshoe
>>
>>
>>> I finally made it to the history center at Germanna today. I went  
>>> in  and told the person there [not a lot of tourist traffic on a  
>>> January  day...] what I was looking for and he said oh, that  
>>> should be no  problem. Till he started looking. And later 4 people  
>>> he knew stopped  by, had the same response, oh, that should be  
>>> easy to find-- everyone  was as surprised as I was, to find that  
>>> it's not readily available.  So what I did find out:
>>> He suggested looking through John Fontaine's account of the  
>>> journey.  You can buy it for $25, or get a copy through an inter- 
>>> library loan.  It should be interesting reading anyway, for anyone  
>>> wanting to learn  more about the expedition.
>>> The Germanna group has a website at germanna.org that has  
>>> information  [after leaving my name at the place, the president  
>>> later called me  and suggested looking there]; there are also  
>>> germanna.com and  germanna.net  The germanna.com might be worth  
>>> contacting, I was told  the guy who runs it knows pretty much  
>>> everything there is to know  about the era, and is happy to help  
>>> researchers.
>>> I also came across a site on their computer, West Virginia  
>>> Archives  and History [look up "Alexander Spotswood's Transmontane  
>>> Expedition",  extracted from a book written in 1860 which uses a  
>>> book from 1722],  it names a few more of the members of the  
>>> expedition- Spotswood,  Fontaine, Beverly [it was at Beverly's  
>>> house at Middlesex, where  after being "hospitably entertained" by  
>>> Beverly, the governor the  next day "left his chaise and mounted a  
>>> horse for the rest of the  expedition"], Colonel Robertson, Austin  
>>> Smith ["who returned home  owing to a fever"], Todd, Dr.  
>>> Robertson, Taylor, Mason, Brooke, and  Captains Clouder and Smith.  
>>> "The whole number in the party, including  gentlemen, rangers,  
>>> pioneers, Indians and servants, was probably  about fifty. They  
>>> had with them a large number of riding and pack  horses, an  
>>> abundant supply of provisions, and an extraordinary  variety of  
>>> liquors." The first leg of the trip was three miles, and  when  
>>> they camped they named each camp after a member of the   
>>> expedition; the first camp was Camp Beverly. The fellow at  
>>> Germanna  said they used every stop at every camp, church, house  
>>> or inn as an  excuse for another round of drinks. This was not a  
>>> "Lewis and Clark"  type expedition, more an adventure for  
>>> gentlemen. The exact route is  still not known, many think it was  
>>> over the mountains at what is now  Rt. 33, where a commemorative  
>>> stone pyramid now stands. But others  think it was a road back  
>>> through the towns of Syria and Graves  Mountain, which once  
>>> crossed the mountains and was called something  like "Mountain  
>>> Crossing Road", but it was closed in the 1930s when  the federal  
>>> government bought and built Skyline Drive. The road now  ends in a  
>>> fire road with a gate across it. When they crested the  mountains  
>>> and saw a river below them, Spotswood named it Euphrates.  Luckily  
>>> saner heads later prevailed and it now bears the beautiful  Indian  
>>> name of Shenandoah.
>>> There are also the Spotswood family papers, in possession of the   
>>> Colonial Williamsburg Foundation. If you can track them down,  
>>> they  might have something. So this is as much as I could gather  
>>> about the  Knights of the Golden Horseshoe.
>>> Nancy
>>> -------
>>> I was never lost, but I was bewildered once for three days.
>>> --Daniel Boone
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