Netti and company:

Two points to note here:

1) You may be having trouble finding the Hillier document because it is not
a Colonial WIlliamsburg Research Report -- this is Susan Hillier's 1970 MA
thesis from the COllege of WIlliam and Mary: "Shipping Between England and
Virgina: 1606-1630"

2) Ms Egloff's reference to Brown, _Genisis_ 1:402-403 is in fact Brown's
transcription of the manuscript John Kneebone is describing from the VCRP.
I might also note that as wonderful as Brown's work was for it's time, his
mastery of 17th century English handwriting wasn't too good, and as a result
his transcriptions aren't always the most accurate.  Years ago I acquired my
own copy of Brown and I use it often, but I wouldn't quote the documents
found there until I had double checked them against the original, or at
least a more modern transcription.

Oh yes, one more note:  If you spend any time poking around in Kingsbury's
_Records of the VIrginia Company_, you'll find lots of reerences to ships --
even the early ones you are saeeking -- but few if any passanger lists.  A
bummer to be sure, but the reality of the evidence I'm afraid.

I hope all of this helps locate some evidence that might help you in your
seqrches.

Best regards to all,

Peter V. Bergstrom

-----Original Message-----
From: Netti Schreiner-Yantis
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Sent: 10/16/01 5:54 PM
Subject: Re: SHIPS TO JAMESTOWN 1610

John T. Kneebone --

Thanks for the reference.  It is precisely what I needed!  It is also
interesting to see that there were NO persons in the MUSTER who had
arrived
with Lord De La Warr.

>It brought up a reference to Survey Report 00019, which describes a
document
>at the British Museum (now British Library), identified as Harleian
>Manuscripts 7009, and entitled "Relation of a Voyage to Virginia in . .
.
>1610." The Survey Report says that this is Lord De La Warr's report of
his
>arrival in Virginia, dated 7 July 1610. It goes on to say that "The
>Catalogue lists the ms thus: 12. Relation of a Voyage to Virginia in
the
>West Indies in Three Ships, viz. the De La War Admiral, the Blissing of
>Plymouth Vice Admiral, & the Hercules of Rye Rear Admiral, July 7,
1610."

>That document is reproduced on microfilm reel 543 of the Virginia
Colonial
>Records Project, and the microfilm can be obtained on interlibrary loan
at
>your local public library from either the Library of Virginia or the
>University of Virginia Library. Be sure to give the reel number.

Netti

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