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I think the point is the exact opposite.  Why are academic types  insistent 
on proving that a founding father had sex with some Black  female.  I think the 
interracial sex aspect must titillate you  all.
 
 
In a message dated 7/17/2008 9:24:08 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
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Ins't  Herb's "theory" simply that it was anyone but Jefferson?  The logic  
escapes me.  

Jefferson was a man with normal, even high level,  sex drive. As young man he 
propositioned his neighbor's wife; his own wife was  constantly pregnant.  
When she died Sally was soon available.  Sally  was his wife's half-sister and 
probably looked somewhat (much) like his late  wife.  Jefferson lived in a 
culture where slaveowning men had free and  easy access to their slave women.  
Elite slaveowners, like Jefferson,  lived in a culture where sex with slaves was 
common and unexceptional.   As a widower Jefferson was not even subject to 
raise eyebrows for cheating on  his wfe.  While some modern scholars are shocked 
at the olded Jefferson  having a relationship with the teenaged Sally, this 
was not shocking at the  time.  Madison was courting a girl in her early teens 
when he was in his  late 20s or early 30s and no one thought anything of it.  
President Tyler  married a much much younger woman after his first wife died.  
This was  not uncommon.  Nor were most of the Founders "prudes" or 
"Victorians"  about sex (John Adams and perhaps John Jay are notable exceptions).  

So, the real issue is why are people like Herb so invested in  asserting that 
TJ could not, would not, did not, have sex with Sally, when all  the evidence 
(timing of her the birth of her children, access, etc.) was there  before the 
DNA came along?  Why would we expect anything else from a  slaveholding 
widower isolated on his mountain top?  Do we think Jefferson  in his 40s became a 
monk?



Paul Finkelman
President William  McKinley Distinguished Professor of Law
and Public  Policy
Albany Law School
80 New Scotland Avenue
Albany, New  York   12208-3494

518-445-3386  
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>>> Henry Wiencek  <[log in to unmask]> 07/17/08 9:05 AM >>>
Unless I am  mistaken, Herb's theory (and this is a new theory) that the
French servant  Adrien Petit fathered children with Sally Hemings at
Monticello does not  hold water. Adrien Petit worked for Jefferson in
Philadelphia and he  returned to France in January 1794, a year before Sally
Hemings conceived  Harriet 1, who was born in October 1795. Petit was across
the sea when  Hemings conceived children at Monticello. If there is a record
that states  otherwise I will be glad to see it. 

Henry  Wiencek

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