The Massachusetts Historical Society has quite a number of Jefferson
documents as well.
http://www.masshist.org/
Pamela Myer Sackett
Past Chair, Friends of Brentsville Courthouse Historic Centre
Brentsville, VA
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Subject: TJ papers at LC
Henry-
I had a dickens of a time tracking down some cabinet minutes from 1803
in the TJ papers in the Manuscripts Department of the Library of
Congress for A Wilderness So Immense, even with help from Barbara Oberg
at the Jefferson Papers and friends at the Library of Virginia, where
they have it all on microfilm. Turns out cabinet notes were filed
differently from the regular chronological sequence - at the end of the
year or something like that, and undated stuff was lumped at the ends of
years or reels too.
However, I want to suggest another possibility. In addition to the TJ
papers in the MANUSCRIPTS division of the Library of Congress, there are
a substantial number of things TJ collected about Virginia history in
the RARE BOOKS Department of the Library of Congress -- including all
the manuscripts he bought from the estate of Richard Bland. The best
convenient guide to these Rare Book Dept MSS - which are entirely
distinct from the ones in Manuscripts Dept -- is Millicent Sowerby's big
5 volume bibliography -- volume 3 as I recall.
I think LVA also has these materials on microfilm among their
so-called Miscellaneous Reels. I've not used the film in a long while,
but I worked with the originals at LC years ago. Hening used some of
these manuscripts - and there are places where he circled blocks of text
and wrote OMIT in the margin.
Hope this helps.
Jon Kukla
Henry Wiencek wrote:
> I have what I hope is a straightforward question for the list. For my
> book on GW and slavery I have made use of Prof. John Chester Miller's
> "The Wolf By the Ears: TJ and Slavery." Prof. Miller wrote forcefully
> against the thesis that TJ fathered children with Hemings. My
question:
> does anyone know if he stated a new position after the DNA
announcement
> or is he not persuaded by the DNA findings and historical evidence? I
> don't think he participated in the research and writings of the TJ
> Heritage group, but I may be wrong. I'm not asking for commentary on
> his position and I don't want to re-open the rumpus on this. If
anyone
> could point me to any recent writings by Prof. Miller I would be
grateful.
>
> I also ask the list's help on a related topic. I am having trouble
> tracking a GW-related Jefferson document that is supposedly in the
> Library of Congress. The editors of both the Jefferson Papers and the
> Washington Papers have tried to help me with this and have come up
> empty. There is a widely quoted statement supposedly made by George
> Washington to Edmund Randolph, and supposedly written down by
Jefferson,
> that if the Union ever broke up along northern and southern lines, "he
> had made up his mind to move and be of the northern." James Thomas
> Flexner quotes this in his GW biography (vol 4, --_George Washington:
> Anguish and Farewell_--p. 482), citing "Jefferson, Heads of
Information
> given me by E. Randolph, n.d., LC" Flexner further cites: "M, III,
> 297n." The Jefferson experts tell me that "M" stands for the Dumas
> Malone biography of Jefferson, but they checked Malone and find no
such
> statement. So we are thrown back on the citation to the LC. The
people
> at the TJ Papers and the GW Papers all ran computer searches on the
> American Memory site and couldn't find any "Heads of Information" in
the
> undated material. The specialists at LC Manuscripts have also come up
> empty so far. This is a widely quoted saying and yet the original
> source seems elusive. Any help will be very greatly appreciated.
> Henry Wiencek
> Charlottesville
>
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