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Paul Finkelman <[log in to unmask]>
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Jon:  Are you arguing that Henry then supported the Amendments Madison
proposed, or that Henry supported Madison's election to the House after
Madison said he would support amendments.

I would defer to you on Henry, but this is certainly not my sense of
Henry; who as I recall, opposed Madison's amendments -- as did most
leading antifederalists -- because they were a Tub to a Whale.

I (modestly) discuss this in    "James Madison and the Adoption of the
Bill of Rights:  A Reluctant Paternity,"  Supreme Court Review:
1990 (1991) 301-47.

Paul Finkelman

Jon Kukla wrote:

>Re the statement (quoted from the post below) that "Henry did everything
>he could to keep Madison out of the First Congress so he could not propose
>the Bill of Rights."  I trust the book is a bit more clearly written.
>  Far from attempting to keep Madison out of congress "SO he could not
>propose the Bill of Rights," (emphasis added) Henry and his
>anti-Federalist allies, first, denied Madison a seat in the Senate in
>favor of their own Richard Henry Lee and William Grayson (senators were
>elected by the state legislatures). Then campaigned hard against Madison
>for the House of Representatives until Madison had to promise to push
>for a bill of rights in order to win election to the house.
>  Presumably the implication to the effect that Henry and his allies
>sought to keep Madison out of Congress _in order to prevent him from
>proposing a bill of rights_ is a slip of the pen in the blurb not the
>book.
>
>
>Dr. Jon Kukla, Executive Vice-President
>Red Hill - The Patrick Henry National Memorial
>1250 Red Hill Road
>Brookneal, Virginia 24528
>www.redhill.org
>
>
>
>>________________________________
>>
>>From: Richard Labunski [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>>Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 9:30
>>Subject: James Madison and the Bill of Rights
>>
>>
>>Dear Colleague:
>>
>>I am a professor at the University of Kentucky and the author of the new
>>book, "James Madison and the Struggle for the Bill of Rights."  It will
>>be published in early June by Oxford University Press in its "Pivotal
>>Moments in American History" series.  (The series co-editors are James
>>McPherson and David Hackett Fischer).
>>
>>The book tells the incredible story of how the exceedingly shy Madison
>>overcame one obstacle after another to help give the nation the
>>Constitution and the Bill of Rights.  Few people, including those
>>otherwise interested in the founding period, know how close we came to
>>not having the Bill of Rights then or perhaps ever.
>>
>>The book relies heavily on primary sources and will appeal to general
>>audiences as well as historians and other scholars.  It has 35
>>illustrations including letters, photos, portraits, legislative
>>documents, and newspaper commentaries related to the founding and
>>ratification era.
>>
>>You can learn more about the book, read an excerpt, advance praise and
>>reviews, and see some of the illustrations here:
>><www.richardlabunski.com <http://www.richardlabunski.com/> >.
>>
>>There is much in the book about Virginia political history, including
>>discussion of the General Assembly, the Virginia ratifying convention,
>>and the role that the state's prominent Anti-Federalists played in the
>>ratification debate.  The political battle between Madison and the
>>charismatic Patrick Henry is especially interesting and compelling.
>>Henry did everything he could to keep Madison out of the First Congress
>>so he could not propose the Bill of Rights.
>>
>>Amazon is currently offering a pre-publication discount of 37 percent.
>>You can order it through the Amazon link at my Web site.
>>
>>Thank you.
>>
>>Richard Labunski
>>
>>(Would you also please forward this e-mail to someone who may be
>>interested in the book? Thanks.)
>>
>>
>>Richard Labunski
>>School of Journalism and Telecommunications
>>University of Kentucky, Lexington, KY 40506-0042
>>Office:  (859) 257-5719
>>Home fax:  (859) 873-3557
>>Author of: James Madison and the Struggle
>>for the Bill of Rights http://richardlabunski.com
>><http://richardlabunski.com/>
>>Internship Web site http://jatinternships.uky.edu
>><http://jatinternships.uky.edu/>
>>
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