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 It's unclear to me what might distinguish a "hireling" from an assistant
marshal in this situation. 

  

Bland Whitley, editorial hireling 

 On Tue 26/10/10 4:31 PM , Craig Kilby [log in to unmask] sent:
  What an interesting discussion this has become. I suppose my favorite
example is Columbia County, Georgia 1870 census. This was deep south
federally occupied territory with black Re-constructionist era hirelings
doing the census. Here we find all sorts of people enumerated that were
never known before, and perhaps just made up out of whole cloth, perhaps
still just never acknowledged before. It's a great read, and a great story
and one that deserves more study.

 The entire Reconstruction era is not an area of study that gets much
attention. Corruption was rampant and abuses were awful. It gave rise to
the terrible Jim Crow laws and the KKK. It is a disturbing and dark period
in our national history, to say the least. Dark and terrible indeed, but
still, it happened, and it needs to be talked about. There are no clean
skirts here and I suspect this is why this epoch is brushed under the rug
and largely ignored--or worse, painted over.

 Craig

 On Oct 26, 2010, at 4:10 PM, Bill Crews wrote:

 > I hesitate to make a global comment about the assistant marshals but
I've done
 > extensive transcriptions from the Valley and SW Virginia 1870 census
and it
 > seems to me that all of them are not only residents but come from
amongst the
 > most prominent residents.
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 > ________________________________
 > From: "Barbara Vines Little, CG, FVGS" 
 > To: 
 > Sent: Tue, October 26, 2010 4:03:42 PM
 > Subject: Re: [VA-HIST] 1860 and 1870 Census
 >
 > The census taker for Madison County was W[illiam] D Fry. His family had
lived in
 > the area since 1720s. I don't think you could classify him as a Yankee.
 >
 > Barbara Vines Little, CG, FVGS
 >
 > PO Box 1273
 > Orange, VA 22960
 > 
 > 540-832-3473
 >
 > CG, Certified Genealogist, is a service mark of the Board for
Certification of
 > Genealogists, used under license by board certified genealogists after
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 > evaluation, and the board name is registered in the US Patent &
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 > Office.
 >
 >
 > On 10/26/2010 12:53 PM, Hannah Powell wrote:
 >> I would say it's a matter of attitude. Virginia was not as devastated
as some
 >> other states. Military rule did not end until 1872 in Alabama for
instance.
 >> But the southern mind never forgot the yankees. Military rule in other
states
 >> was not pleasant and a yankee census taker was not welcome .. simply
tolerated.
 >> ... and that IS a fact. Did the Confederate Virginians have a
different view of
 >> the world? Virginia in view of her population mix of Yankee and
Confederate
 >> might have been more subdued at the end of the war. Regarding the 1870
Census
 >> taker ... was a yankee plain and simple.
 >> Hannah Powell
 >> Hannah Powell
 >>
 >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tarter, Brent (LVA)"
 >> 
 >> To: 
 >> Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 8:28 AM
 >> Subject: Re: [VA-HIST] 1860 and 1870 Census
 >>
 >>
 >> Precision is important when characterizing things, especially things
 >> that the Feds did during the decades before and after the Civil War.
 >>
 >> In the first place, Virginia was not under military rule when the
census
 >> of 1870 was taken. Congressional, or as it is sometimes called
military,
 >> reconstruction ended in Virginia in January 1870.
 >>
 >> In the second place, federal government employees always conducted the
 >> census, so what, if anything, does it matter whether a former
 >> Confederate state still had military rule when the census of 1870 was
 >> taken?
 >>
 >> Brent Tarter
 >> The Library of Virginia
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