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Elizabeth Whitaker <[log in to unmask]>
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There were also individuals who decided not 
to keep records on their female ancestors and 
female descendants, deeming that information 
neither pertinent nor interesting. There were 
also religious differences within families as 
well as, possibly, personal ones, for which 
the chosen "remedy" was to omit them from 
family records. Neither was the "blended" 
family an invention of our times: though the 
usual cause of a second or third marriage was 
death and not divorce, kids could and did 
object to new stepmothers.

I have been pursuing family history since 
1984, mainly in the Carolinas of the early 
Republic, but I see no reason life would have 
been that different in Virginia.

Another factor in missing ancestors is that 
Southern records, especially from before 
about 1840, tend to be nonexistent in modern 
times, either through non-creation or through 
destruction (weather, fires, war, insects, 
rodents, etc.). It was and is much easier to 
track dead ancestors, especially white male 
ancestors, if and when documents were created 
and placed in official places: these 
documents were usually probate documents, 
such as wills and/or estate inventories; 
military service and/or military pension 
records; court records, such as lawsuits, 
jury lists, and/or criminal actions, and land 
documents, such as deeds and/or mortgages 
(property or crop liens). Other useful 
documents are censuses, tax lists, and 
mentions in newspapers. (I have found that 
denominational newspapers can be incredible 
resources, especially when tracking members 
of that denomination's clergy in a specific 
area.)

Elizabeth Whitaker

Hist Docs wrote:
> "There was so much mixing and matching going on back then, "
> 
> I most definitely concur with that!  Unfortunately, the powers that be too often cut off branches that were less than perfect in their eyes.  Indeed makes for some complicated searching.
> 
> 
> 
> RBJ
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Anita Wills<mailto:[log in to unmask]> 
>   To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> 
>   Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 7:04 PM
>   Subject: Re: Presidents with black blood: Thomas Jefferson
> 
> 
>   There was so much mixing and matching going on back then, nothing would surprise me.  There was a man on Oprah many years ago whose father was passing for white, until he went bankrupt. That is when they found out their grandmother was African American.  Many of those able to pass went as far north as Canada (and all states in between), and passed as white. Entire lines of my family have changed their racial identity over the generations.  The only time the powers that be become involved is when they wanted to declare someone Mulatto, Colored, Negro or black. 
> 
>   In Jefferson's days a lot of assumptions were made, including about race.  Many of the genealogies of our leaders are incomplete. If you read them carefully you will see that their are gaps, and many dead end lines. This is not just with Jefferson, but Washington, Monroe, and several others from that ilk. This is not a new discussion it has been going on in the African American community for quite a while.  Remember we went places, and heard things, that the average white person did not. After all no one was going to believe anything coming out of a black servants mouth. That is why it is best too keep an open mind when looking into these family histories.  
> 
>   Happy Hunting!! 
>   Anita 
> 
>   > Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 14:56:36 -0400
>   > From: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>   > Subject: Presidents with black blood: Thomas Jefferson
>   > To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>   > 
>   > As a Jefferson Family Historian who has researched ALL
>   > Jeaffresons/Jeffersons from Pettistree, Suffolk Co., England since the
>   > late 1500s, I can say that I have found no recording of any black blood
>   > in Thomas Jefferson's family history.
>   > 
>   > Herb Barger
>   > Jefferson Family Historian 
>   > 
>   > -----Original Message-----
>   > From: Discussion of research and writing about Virginia history
>   > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Laura Fortune
>   > Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 4:44 AM
>   > To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>   > Subject: [VA-HIST] Presidents wth black blood
>   > 
>   > I have just read an article in the Arcade@Home<mailto:Arcade@Home> that claims that Thomas 
>   > Jefferson was our first president with black blood.  Do any of the 
>   > historians on this list have any information on this allegation?  The
>   > artcle 
>   > also states that Andrew Jackson was the son of an Irish  wonan who
>   > married a 
>   > black man, that Abraham Lincoln was the illegitimate son of an African
>   > man 
>   > and allegedly an Ethiopian woman, that Warren Hardng had black ancestors
>   > on 
>   > both sets of parents, and that Calvin Coolidge claimed his mother was
>   > dark 
>   > because of mixed Indian ancestry.  I have never heard of any of these 
>   > before.  Is there any truth here?
>   > 
>   > Laura Catherine 
>   > 
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