The 1785 state census for Fauquier County was found among tax lists at
the courthouse and published by Joan W. Peters: -_The 1785 Fauquier
County, Virginia State Census: 12 Lists of Whites & Dwellings in
Fauquier County, Virginia, 1785_. From the Clerk's Loose Papers,
Fauquier County Virginia Circuit Court Archives, Tax & Fiscal Recorfds
Series. [s.l.:] Author, 1998. (First published in _Northern Virginia
Genealogy_, 1998.) Several of the lists include house dimensions.
Donald L. Wilson, Virginiana Librarian,
Ruth E. Lloyd Information Center
for Genealogy and Local History (RELIC),
Prince William Public Library System,
Bull Run Regional Library,
8051 Ashton Avenue, Manassas, VA 20110-2892
703-792-4540 www.pwcgov.org/library/relic
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Subject: Re: Colonial house taxes
I wish. The lists I have located are in the County Records at LVA. They
are interfiled with the other tax records under tithables and are not,
as far as I have found to date, among the personal property tax lists.
Although I did find one of the personal property tax lists that included
the "census" count of white and black souls.
What appears to have survived outside of the collection of 1782-1785
state "census" records published as the 1790 federal census, are random
copies filed among county records. The law read (if memory serves) that
these were to be turned into the governor's office. What I think I am
seeing are the copies turned into the county clerk from which the final
state copy was compiled. Botetourt's state copy does not survive. I have
published a number of the Botetourt ones in the _Magazine of Virginia
Genealogy_ and will continue to publish others as I uncover them.
Barbara Vines Little, CG
Dominion Research Services
PO Box 1273
Orange, VA 22960
540-832-3473
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Lyle E. Browning wrote:
> Does anyone have a list of which counties do have surviving lists? And
> where they're located if not at the VSL?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Lyle Browning
>
>
> On Oct 14, 2008, at 10:47 PM, Barbara Vines Little, CG wrote:
>
>> There are some surviving lists for 1785 (some published as part of
>> the substitute for the 1790 federal census) and others that survive
>> in county records. In Botetourt County these vary from tax precinct
>> to tax precinct some including simply the number of dwellings and
>> number of "other buildings" others have descriptions that include the
>> type of roof and chimney.
>>
>> Copies of the federal direct tax of 1798 do not survive except for
>> two copies for Spotsylvania for 1798. One for Berkeley district
>> survives in the Holladay family papers at the Virginia Historical
>> Society and includes a full description of the houses and buildings,
>> the other is a summary form that appears to cover the entire county
>> and survives in private hands. It was published in Volume 37 (1999)
>> of the _Magazine of Virginia Genealogy_.
>> The actual tax tickets for the 1st District of Virginia for 1815
>> survive and were published by Mary Kegley These include descriptions
>> of the houses and buildings. A summary document survives for King
>> George County and is in the collection of the Virginia Historical
>> Society.
>>
>> I have been told, but have not verified that a list for Berkeley
>> County (West) Virginia survives as well.
>>
>> Barbara Vines Little, CG
>> Dominion Research Services
>> PO Box 1273
>> Orange, VA 22960
>>
>> 540-832-3473 [log in to unmask]
>>
>> CG, Certified Genealogist, is a service mark of the Board for
>> Certification of Genealogists, used under license by board certified
>> genealogists after periodic evaluation, and the board name is
>> registered in the US Patent & Trademark Office.
>>
>>
>> Michael Nicholls wrote:
>>> In the mid-1780's the states were asked to contribute money to the
>>> fed gov't under the Articles of Confederation based on the value of
>>> land and improvements. This actually created some lists that have
>>> survived for some Virginia counties and are located at the Library
>>> of Virginia. Some have dimensions of the buildings and note their
>>> construction type, but others just list the number of buildings and
>>> types. There are great inconsistencies. There was also a federal tax
>>> ca 1798, but I have no evidence at hand of the details. Some of
>>> these have survived for other states and have been used by
>>> architectural historians.-Mick Nicholls On Oct 14, 2008, at 3:11 PM,
>>> W. Scott Smith wrote:
>>>
>>>> To build on Linda's post, Virginia did not begin separating out the
>>>> value of buildings on a tract of land until 1820. Before that time,
>>>> my research has shown that the value or presence of a house on a
>>>> given tract had absolutely no bearing on the value per acre that
>>>> was assessed from 1782 to 1819.
>>>>
>>>> We often hear stories of windows, closets, and other things being
>>>> taxed, but I have found no evidence of this. Other states have tax
>>>> lists which are an architectural historian's dream, but Virginia is
>>>> not one of them.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> W. Scott Smith, Managing Partner
>>>> The Antiquaries, LC
>>>> Historical Research & Consulting
>>>>
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>>>> Mailing: P.O. Box 75, Lynchburg, VA 24505 Office 434-528-3995
>>>> Mobile 434-401-3995 www.theantiquaries.com
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