Absent violent actions against Federal officials and property, the peaceful 
process to secede remains a viable argument, but probably not a winnable one 
in the end. After all the Articles of Confederation contained the word 
"perpetual" which was "blown away" by practical needs. In 1861, Virginia was 
on the road to a "peaceful process", but the violent acts by "hot heads", 
among so many other considerations and issues for the times,  sealed it as 
null and void.

Have I stated anything that is without any substance whatsoever?


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Philip Adams" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 8:09 AM
Subject: Re: New Subject


> How about Vermont wanting to secede.
> Should we remind them of our last attempt to do so? The Yankees, of whom
> they are one, they do not take kindly to wanting to get away from the 
> taxing
> authority in DC.
> Do not forget this is Juneteenth here in Texas. The end of a truly tragic
> period of our history, which we have just discussed at length, to 
> celebrate
> the end of slavery.
>
> John Philip Adams
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Discussion of research and writing about Virginia history
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Loretta Kelldorf
> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 11:50 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: New Subject
>
> Perhaps it is time to begin a new topic of discussion.  With the long
> history of VA, surely there are other interests than slavery.  What is the
> list interested in discussing?
>
> Pirates on the outer banks?
> Federalist Papers?
> How geography affected development?
> Indian traders?
> Shipping  and/or the VA navy?
> Huguenot settlements ?
> The War of 1812 ?
>
> Someone please be brave enough to jump in with a new topic of discussion.
> Let us avoid chastising each other and getting dangerously close to 
> flaming.
>
> Loretta
>
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