Ah--silly me. If I had just read a bit deeper into today's posts, I would have seen it.
I am unaware of any extended discussion of making GW king. There was extended talk about promoting the dignity and authority of the Federal government and its officers, in the 1790s. But everyone pretty much agreed that the Novus Ordo Seclorum produced by the founding would be republican, not monarchical. About the closest anyone got to monarchy was Alexander Hamilton's proposal, during the Philadelphia Convention, that the President serve for life or good behavior.
There was lots of Jeffersonian fear mongering that the Federalists wanted to create an American monarchy--but to my knowledge, there was precious little serious advocacy for such a form of government.
I number of my academic colleagues who post regularly here may be able to speak more substantively to this issue than I can. I think, however, it is safe to say that there was no serious movement for an American monarchy in the 1790s or afterwards. There may have been some discussion during the turmoil of the 1780s--but even so, I would be surprised if it got much traction among the larger body of post-revolutionary American statesmen.
All best,
Kevin
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>Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 09:30:36 -0400
>From: Harris Kern <[log in to unmask]>
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>The QUESTION was not the succession, the QUESTION was:
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>If, how many, and when did the issue of GW being made King occur during the
>early years of the country.
>
>Harris Kern
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>> Were Washington designated king, George Washington Parke Custis was his
>> adopted, and only,?son.? GWPC as king designate had four children, but
>> only one survived to adulthood, Mary Anna Randolph Custis.? She married
>> Robert E. Lee.? Therefore, at the time the War of Northern Invasion took
>> place, the Lee family would have ruled the U.S. for quite some time, and
>> the whole unnecessary mess would never have taken place. REL would have
>> seen that slavery, an institution he detested,?was ended, and we would all
>> live happily ever, except for Sally Hemmings descendants who are still
>> trying to figure out whom daddy was.
>>
>> By the way, I am working on a theory that Sojourner Truth had an
>> illegitimate son by Robert E. Lee.? If there is anyone out there who would
>> like to assist me in the project, please register at the for-profit site
>> jsouth.com (or is it .org?).
>>
>> J South
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Harris Kern <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Sent: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 8:35 am
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>>
>> You people are amazing.?
>> ?
>> When asked a real question about VA Hist.?
>> ?
>> "The closest reference at hand was HIS EXCELLENCY by Ellis and a quick
>> index search found two instances where this might have come about, right
>> after Yorktown and the Newburgh Conspiracy.?
>> ?
>> I'm sure there were others, so I'm asking if anyone one this list can
>> enlighten me so I can pass the information on."?
>> All you can do is belittle the person asking and then somehow use a
>> question about GW to continue your petty little school yard taunting.?
>> ?
>> Harris Kern?
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Craig Kilby" <[log in to unmask]>?
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>?
>> Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 12:07 AM?
>> Subject: Re: New Subject?
>> ?
>>> Friends:?
>>>?
>>> This really crosses the bar from-used-to-be-scholarly exchange to >
>>> often-just-plain-annoying to now-just-plain-stupid. Is there another >
>>> list server that is not contaminated that one can join? Please, >
>>> obviously, respond off list I am off of this list. Don't waste your time
>>> > responding to me on this list, because I am off it. But, if anyone can
>>> > find Anne's "off" switch, please use it.?
>>>?
>>> Craig?
>>>?
>>> On Oct 11, 2008, at 11:44 PM, Anne Pemberton wrote:?
>>>?
>>>> J South,?
>>>>?
>>>> Robert E. Lee is not more a "worthy subject" for Virginia History than
>>>> >> Sally Hemmings or any other slave. Without slave labor, you probably
>>>> >> would not have a building to work in. Most historical public
>>>> buildings >> in Virginia were built with the labor of the illegitimate
>>>> children of >> slaves who were forbidden by law to marry. The father/s
>>>> of Sally's >> children may well have wanted to make her a honest woman,
>>>> but was >> constrained by the law or the whims of her owner, or both.?
>>>>?
>>>> But if you want to discuss another slaveowner, Robert E. Lee, go right
>>>> >> ahead. How did he treat his slaves? Did he give them permission to >>
>>>> marry? Did he purchase "breeders", or sell same? How did he provision >>
>>>> his slaves? How much meat was his weekly alotment? And how did Mrs. >>
>>>> Robert E. Lee treat those of their joint slaves which were purported to
>>>> >> be hers??
>>>>?
>>>> Anne?
>>>>?
>>>> Anne Pemberton?
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>>>> http://www.erols.com/apembert?
>>>> http://www.educationalsynthesis.org?
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