Mr. Redmond -
Thanks for providing citations for those resources. I actually had the
chance to review copies of some of those maps from the park's resources.
Unfortunately, the roads I'm looking for are not acknowledged on the maps.
:-(
Thank you again for your help.
ahd
On 9/20/06, Edward James Redmond <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> But "trudging to an archive" might also yield maps of the proposed park
> and proposed boundaries published in 1927 and 1930 (see below) as well as
> maps of Warren County.
>
> The Library of Congress oniine catalog can be searched via
> http://catalog.loc.gov To browse our catalog for maps of Shenandoah Valley
> go to the site above; select the basic search option; enter
> G3882 .S5 in the search box (this is the call number for your area of
> interest); select the "LC Call Number Browse" option and submit your search.
>
>
> 1) Tentative boundary of proposed Shenandoah National Park, Virginia.
> LC Control No.: unk83012919
> Type of Material: Cartographic Material
> Corporate Name: United States. Geological Survey. [from old
> catalog]
> Main Title: Tentative boundary of proposed Shenandoah National Park,
> Virginia.
> Published/Created: Washington, 1927.
> Description: 23 col. maps 41 x 41 cm.
> CALL NUMBER: G3882.S5 s24 .U6
>
> 2) Topographic map, proposed Shenandoah National Park, Virginia /
> Department...
> LC Control No.: 98686546
> Type of Material: Cartographic Material
> Corporate Name: Geological Survey (U.S.)
> Main Title: Topographic map, proposed Shenandoah National Park,
> Virginia / Department of the Interior, U.S. Geological Survey.
> Edition Information: Ed. of 1934.
> Published/Created: [Washington, D.C.] : The Survey, [1934]
> Description: 2 maps : col. ; 89 x 87 cm.
> Scale Information: Scale 1: 62,500 ; Polyconic proj. (W 7850*--W
> 7805*/N 3900*--N 3800*).
> Contents: North half -- South half.
> Notes: Relief shown by contours and spot heights.
> "Topography by U.S. Geological Survey (Glenn S. Smith and Albert
> Pike, Division Engineers). Control by U.S. Geological Survey and Corps of
> Engineers, U.S. Army. Surveyed in 1927-1930."
> Subjects: Shenandoah National Park (Va.)--Maps, Topographic.
> LC Classification: G3882.S5 s62 .G4
> Geographic Class No.: 3882 S5
> CALL NUMBER: G3882.S5 s62 .G4
>
> Ed Redmond
> Geography & Map Reference Specialist
> Geography and Map Division
> Library of Congress
> 101 Independence Ave, SE
> Washington, DC 20540-4651
> (202) 707-8548
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>
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> The views expressed in this message are solely mine
> and do not neccessarily represent those of the Library of Congress.
>
>
>
> >>> [log in to unmask] 09/20/06 11:46 AM >>>
> A quick link that I've found for Historic USGS Maps in the eastern states:
>
> http://historical.maptech.com/index.cfm
>
> Only a couple of years are represented, but nonetheless, it'll save you
> sometime in trudging to an archive.
>
> ahd
>
> On 9/20/06, Tom Magnuson <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> > Quite welcome, Andrew. Of all the historical documents generally
> > accessible, the maps are the most useful for us in finding old routes,
> > and in particular the Soil Surveys when searching for remnants.
> >
> > tom
> >
> > T.R. Magnuson
> > Trading Path Association
> > PO Box 643
> > Hillsborough, NC 27278
> > 919-644-0600
> > www.tradingpath.org
> >
> >
> >
> > Andrew Deci wrote:
> > > Mr. Magnuson -
> > >
> > > Thank you for reminding me to bring up the maps I've used. I've had
> the
> > > opporunity to take a look at the whole series of USGS topo maps
> > > (current and
> > > historic), as well as a number of historic maps dating to the Civil
> War
> > > period. Most of the broken connections are associated with the actual
> > > condemnation of the land, during the 20's and 30's, though some were
> > > likely
> > > lost before.
> > >
> > > I had not thought about using the historic soil surveys you
> > > mentioned. In
> > > general, I've gotten more useful information from the historic maps I
> > > have
> > > consulted than from my other resources.
> > >
> > > Thanks again,
> > >
> > > Andrew
> > >
> > > On 9/20/06, Tom Magnuson <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Mr. Deci,
> > >>
> > >> You made no mention of the maps consulted in your background
> research.
> > >> I suggest that if the connections you're trying find were made or
> > broken
> > >> in the late 19th or early 20th century you may want to consult soil
> > >> survey maps for the counties in question. Historical soil surveys
> show
> > >> remarkable historic road details. Of course, there will be a range
> of
> > >> other historical maps, and the usual sources for orthographic maps
> that
> > >> may show the original routes. Again, the Soil Service in each county
> > >> has very revealing aerial photos, frequently dating to the first
> > >> generation of aerial photography, of their county.
> > >>
> > >> T.R. Magnuson
> > >> Trading Path Association
> > >> PO Box 643
> > >> Hillsborough, NC 27278
> > >> 919-644-0600
> > >> www.tradingpath.org
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Andrew Deci wrote:
> > >> > Greetings All!
> > >> >
> > >> > The company I work for, Dovetail Cultural Resource Group, has
> > >> > undertaken a
> > >> > project with the NPS to research the rights of ways and history of
> > >> roads
> > >> > connecting properties within Shenandoah National Park to the
> 'outside
> > >> > world'. The purpose is to open up access to fire roads, access
> > >> > points, and
> > >> > trails that have been currently cut-off.
> > >> >
> > >> > My research thus far has focused on locating the properties in
> > >> question,
> > >> > conducting chain-of-title research to note any easements on the
> > >> property,
> > >> > understanding the condemnation process, and finding the historic
> > roots
> > >> of
> > >> > the roads in question. In partiuclar, I'm focusing my work on six
> > >> roads
> > >> > located in Warren County, Rappahannock County, Page County, and
> > >> > Rockingham
> > >> > County.
> > >> >
> > >> > To this point I have not been able to establish any current
> > >> easements or
> > >> > rights of way via the chain-of-title research. I have been able to
> > >> > locate
> > >> > the owners of the condemned properties that would have been using
> the
> > >> > roads,
> > >> > and have used a NPS publication, "A Database of Shenandoah National
> > >> Park
> > >> > Land Records", to understand exactly what each property owner had.
> > >> > Unfortunately, the resource does not include roads as a data point.
> > >> >
> > >> > I have searched the records of both the Department of Conservation
> > and
> > >> > Recreation and the Commission of Parks for any communication or
> memos
> > >> > dealing with roads. None have been noted. In addition, I've taken
> a
> > >> > look
> > >> > at the Boards of Supervisor's minutes for the counties in question,
> > >> > with no
> > >> > luck. State highway plat books located in the individual counties
> > >> > (some of
> > >> > the roads that are currently on private land were formerly state
> > >> > highways)
> > >> > did not provide any additional information.
> > >> >
> > >> > I think I have exhausted the resources available, but would like to
> > >> > hear any
> > >> > thoughts that you all have.
> > >> >
> > >> > Thank you for your assistance.
> > >> >
> > >> > Best,
> > >> >
> > >> > Andrew Deci
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > --
> > >> > Andrew H. Deci
> > >> >
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> > >> > Dovetail Cultural Resource Group, LLC
> > >> >
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