Subject: Re: Starving time
> A WHILE BACK THERE WAS A PROGRAM ON THE DISCOVERY CHANNEL, I THINK, THAT
> ATTRIBUTED THE DEATH OF THE COLONISTS TO POISONING BY A SPANISH
"MOLE".....
> PLANTED BY SPAIN TO WIPE OUT THE COLONY SO THAT SPAIN COULD TAKE THE LAND.
> DOES ANYONE GIVE CREDENCE TO THAT THEORY?
> DFM
> YORK COUNT, VA
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jon Kukla" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 11:27 AM
> Subject: Re: Starving time
>
>
> > Though, personally, I regard Carville Earle's argument for the effects
of
> > salt-poisoning from the shallow wells in a time (as Dennis Blanton's
team
> > has demonstrated more strongly since Earl published in the Tate and
> > Ammerman volume of Chesapeake essays) of the worst drought in 500 years
as
> > a somewhat more persuasive corrective to a solely psychological
> > explanation of the seemingly pathological behaviour....
> > Jon Kukla
> >
> > > The best explanation for the "starving time" is : Kupperman, Karen
> > > Ordahl. "Apathy and Death in Early Jamestown." Journal of American
> > > History 66, no. 1 (1979): 24-40. She links the failure of will to
live
> > > in part to the "alien-ness" of America, and the traumatizing
conditions
> > > of being trapped among enemies.
> > >
> > > David Kiracofe
> > >
> > > David Kiracofe
> > > History
> > > Tidewater Community College
> > > Chesapeake Campus
> > > 1428 Cedar Road
> > > Chesapeake, Va 23322
> > >>>> [log in to unmask] 12/03/05 10:09 AM >>>
> > > I can't remember the citations but years ago I read an article that
> > > compared
> > > the "starving time" in colonial Virginia with the strange atrophy of
US
> > > prisoners of war in Korea circa 1950-1953. The thesis of the article
> > > was
> > > that cultural alienation produced a psychological lethargy that
> > > literally
> > > killed the settlers and prisoners. For the Korea situation I have
> > > gathered
> > > plenty of anecdotal evidence, because many of my teachers from grade
> > > school
> > > to college where Korean War vets. The one that is most memorable was
> > > told
> > > to me by an older student, a Cherokee who joined the Marines, was
> > > seriously
> > > wounded in Korea and captured by the Chinese. He told me that he had
> > > three
> > > bullets in him and had perotenitus (sp?) and swore that he would stay
> > > alive,
> > > accept Chinese medical aid, and just keep his mind focused on staying
> > > alert
> > > and alive. And as he healed he noticed that all around him his
> > > unwounded
> > > comrades began to fade, stop eating, and thus die.
> > > Edmund Morgan more than suggests (in American Slavery, American
> > > Freedom)
> > > that the colonists, unsophisticated in intercultural relations,
> > > similarly
> > > atrophied, at least until they discovered the commerical value of
> > > tobacco
> > > and focused on getting rich.
> > >
> > > Harold S. Forsythe
> > > Visiting Fellow (2005-2006)
> > > Program in Agrarian Studies
> > > Yale University
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <[log in to unmask]>
> > > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > > Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 11:31 PM
> > > Subject: Re: northern bias
> > >
> > >
> > >> HELLO,
> > >> COULD YOU GIVE THE TITLE OF THE BOOK ON JAMESTOWN THAT SHORTO WAS
> > >> REVIEWING?
> > >> THANKS.
> > >> DFM
> > >> PS.
> > >> WHILST ON THE SUBJECT OF COLONIAL VIRGINIA AND JAMESTOWN, I WOULD
> > > LOOOOVE
> > >> TO
> > >> SEE A DISCUSSION ON THE STARVING TIME. THERE SEEM TO BE SEVERAL
> > > DIFFERENT
> > >> IDEAS EMERGING ABOUT WHAT ACTUALLY KILLED ALL THOSE POOR
SOULS....I'VE
> > >> LONG
> > >> WONDERED HOW ON EARTH ALL THOSE FOLKS COULD HAVE DIED OF STARVATION
> > > WHEN
> > >> THE
> > >> WOODS AND WATERS AROUND JAMESTOWN WERE TEEMNG WITH WILDLIFE. YES, THE
> > >> INDIANS WERE LURKING, PERHAPS, READY TO PICK THEM OFF IF THEY LEFT
THE
> > >> SECURITY OF THE FORT BUT SURELY A DEATH BY INDIAN ATTACK WOULD HAVE
> > > BEEN
> > >> PREFERABLE TO DEATH BY STARVATION.
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: "Louise Bernikow" <[log in to unmask]>
> > >> To: <>
> > >> Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 12:32 PM
> > >> Subject: northern bias
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> i take it from the discussion so far that no one saw Russell
Shorto's
> > >> review
> > >>> of a book about Jamestown some weeks ago in the NYTimes Book Review.
> > >> Shorto
> > >>> says the bias that has made "colonial American history" synonymous
> > > with
> > >> New
> > >>> England for so long arose because NE is "easier to sanitize" and
fits
> > >>> more
> > >> neatly
> > >>> the myth of America's founding. I agree and have been provoked by
the
> > >>> "sanitizing" to work on a historical fiction about tobacco brides
and
> > > the
> > >> 17th
> > >>> century= for which I have fruitfully been picking all your brains
for
> > >>> some
> > >> time now,
> > >>> gratefully. Louise Bernikow
> > >>>
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