But you're the one who stated " Amazing that Robert E. Lee remains the
one great unstained American." That's a pretty bold, unsubstantiated
claim. Shouldn't you bear the burden of proving the assertion? Serious
question.
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Read it, considered the source, didn't find anything probative that was
a stain on the man. What did you or anyone find to the contrary?
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> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 08:06:11 -0600
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> Subject: "The Monster of Monticello"
> To: [log in to unmask]
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> Mr. Southmayd--you may want to read Pryor's "Reading the Man," about
R.E. Lee. I would say it might change your opinion about stains.
>
>
> John Maass, Ph.D.
>
> On 12/12/12, Jeff Southmayd<[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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> Amazing that Robert E. Lee remains the one great unstained American.
>
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> > Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 21:52:19 -0500
> > From: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: (VA-HIST] "The Monster of Monticello"
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> >
> > In his novel, The Human Stain, Philip Roth notes that one of
> > America's oldest communal passions is to indulge in the "ecstasy of
> > sanctimony." We feel good and morally superior by condemning the
> > moral failings of others, past and present. I think it is
> > particularly important for those of us dedicated to a study of the
> > past to guard against falling into the dangerous condition of the
> > "ecstasy of sanctimony." It affects those on both the right and left
wings of the political spectrum.
> >
> > Peter Henriques
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 12/11/2012 9:42:10 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> > [log in to unmask] writes:
> >
> > Thank you! Very few extraordinary men have totally clean slates of
> > behavior. It seems a bit juvenile to condemn the man and everything
> > he accomplished instead of condemning the (disappointing and
> > unexpected by "fans") bad behavior as a part of that human being.
> > The emotion about this subject never ceases to amaze me. Expecting
> > our heroes to be saints is very concrete thinking.
> >
> > Sent from Melinda's
> > iPad
> >
> > On Dec 11, 2012, at 9:18 AM, Steve Corneliussen
> > <[log in to unmask]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Mr. Barger complained that Monticello's "emphasis...on slavery
issues"
> > comes "at the expense of Mr. Jefferson." To me that seems upside
> > down. The emphasis in fact honors Mr. Jefferson.
> > >
> > > Mr. Jefferson matters because self-evident but challenging truths
> > matter. It's too bad that Monticello, like the rest of us, failed
> > for many decades to begin elucidating and respecting the lives,
> > dignity and contributions of individual Americans obscenely
> > oppressed by fellow Americans -- including by Mr. Jefferson, the
paradoxically slaveholding human-rights idealist.
> > >
> > > If Monticello had continued its former Gone-with-the-Windism on
> > > slavery
> > late into the last century, if the curators had persisted in
> > obscuring Americans' lives on that mountain, it would have been the
> > foundation's civic, historical and moral negligence that would have
come at the expense of Mr.
> > Jefferson.
> > >
> > > But they got it right. Good for them. Good for self-evident
truths.
> > >
> > > Good for Mr. Jefferson.
> > >
> > > Steven T. Corneliussen
> > > http://www.fortmonroenationalpark.org/
> > > http://tjscience.org/
> > > http://www.physicstoday.org/daily_edition/science_and_the_media
> > >
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