I was just adding to a previous poster's statement reporting what was
thought to be social climbing. I also quoted from the other newspaper's
remarks about the situation. Eston and his family have already spoken for
themselves.. that they descend from a Jefferson uncle, meaning Randolph.
Herb
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Subject: Re: [VA-HIST] Biology and Sally Hemings
Herbert,
As far as scientific evidence, we know as much about a Tom paternity as
about a Randolph paternity.
And, no matter which of them it was, it is impossible to guess Eston's
motives in choosing to call himself Mr. Jefferson.
As to Eston being a "geneological social climber", I think it would be wiser
to restrict judgement until Eston speaks for himself.
Anne
Anne Pemberton
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From: "Lyle E. Browning" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: Biology and Sally Hemings
> Sorry, Herbert, but there's a part of your paragraph that's wrong. See
> below:
>
>
> On Nov 4, 2008, at 5:15 PM, Herbert Barger wrote:
>
>> In my opinion, using your analysis, he may have been honoring his
>> father,
>> RANDOLPH JEFFERSON, who he indicated was his father by oral tradition.
> Fine so far by oral tradition.
>
>> The
>> DNA test proved his oral family history as correct.. there was a
>> match
> Correct.
>> .....BUT NOT Thomas.
> Wrong, as it neither proves nor disproves Thomas. It merely says that
> there is some Jefferson in the paternity line but cannot distinguish
> which one, nor can it rule out one or another.
>
> That is the point which has been argued time and again on this list.
> You've twinned the two lines of evidence in a way that's not supportable
> by the evidence.
>
> Lyle Browning
>
>
>> Regardless of what appears on the Monticello web
>> page, ESTON NEVER claimed TJ was his father, but his brother Madison did
>> and
>> we know how wrong he was on other claims.
>>
>> Herb Barger
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Discussion of research and writing about Virginia history
>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Anne Pemberton
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 4:43 PM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: [VA-HIST] Biology and Sally Hemings
>>
>> Herbert,
>>
>> Whether Eston's father was Thomas or Randolph, his taking the Jefferson
>> name
>>
>> could have been to recognize and honor his father.
>>
>> Anne
>>
>> Anne Pemberton
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