Thanks, Alex. It is just as I remembered the sequence of things, and it appears that from a distance of nearly 400 years, we tend to superimpose upon events what we would like to think.
I was guilty of that last year with the Hunley Commemoration and the Hymn "How Firm a Foundation." It was Gen. Robert E Lee's favorite and I could just hear the strains of the J Michael Hyden's hymntune "Lyons", as the good General on the end of the 5th verse crescendoed with .... "I'll Never.... no never..... NO NEVER forsake." Strong stuff.
But the cold light of research strongly suggested that in the middle of the 19th century, it was sung to the same tune that we sing O COME ALL YE FAITHFUL to today. Bummer...... it loses most of the zip that I attributed to it. I like my version of history better but....... :))
Randy Cabell
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alexander Pyle" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 7:20 PM
Subject: Re: northern bias
> Randy,
>
> It's in Bradford's [History] Of Plymouth Plantation, chapter 4. He
> listed:
>
> 1. Increase the size of their company as many were unwilling or unable
> to migrate to the Netherlands;
> 2. Improve their standard of living as those who were permitted to
> migrate could only hold low-paying craft jobs;
> 3. Prevent the corruption of their children being exposed to worldly
> temptations, a special problem (as they saw it) among the Dutch;
> 4. Propagating the gospel "in those remote parts of the world."
>
> Of course, the impending war between Spain and the Netherlands probably
> figured into their calculations, along with "other like reasons."
>
> alex :-)
>
>
> Alexander Pyle Pronunciation Guide:
> [log in to unmask] Alexander - as in the Great;
> Pyle - as in Gomer.
>
>
> On Fri, 2 Dec 2005, Randy Cabell wrote:
>
>>
>> Back to the legend of goodness that surrounds Plymouth, I continue to wrack
>> my brain on the four reasons that Gov. Bradford gave for leaving Holland and
>> going to the New World, without ANY success on where I read them, or what
>> the four were. But out of the mists of my mind, I seem to recall the first
>> reason he gave that they left Holland for the New World had to do with
>> perserving the community as a community which was beginning to be
>> infiltrated by foreign notions there in Holland. And the fourth reason was
>> Religious Freedom. I'm sorry I cannot pin it down any better, but maybe
>> somebody can find that document.
>>
>> Randy Cabell
>>
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