Jefferson may have also seen the brick serpentine walls that William Byrd III built at his Richmond mansion Belvidere, where he lived with his first wife and later offered up as a prize in his lottery. As governor during the Revolution, I believe Jefferson's residence was near Belvidere. (I am thinking of the accounts of Arnold's invasion of Richmond in January 1781). Ami Pflugrad-Jackisch University of Toledo ________________________________ From: Discussion of research and writing about Virginia history <[log in to unmask]> on behalf of Metz, John (LVA) <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2023 8:17:15 PM To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [VA-HIST] slangenmuur The origin of serpentine walls (Sinusoidal walls) actually goes back at least to ancient Egypt. The Dutch almost certainly introduced the design to England by 1600 where they are often called crinkle crankle walls. They are especially prevalent in East Anglia which had a great deal of Dutch influence in the building trades. Jefferson almost certainly learned of the concept of Sinusoidal walls though the English building and landscape manuals of the second half of the eighteenth century. Get Outlook for iOS<https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Faka.ms%2Fo0ukef&data=05%7C01%7CAmi.PflugradJackisch%40UToledo.Edu%7Cf5d5b4aa3aa9456739ca08db0457d8f6%7C1d6b1707baa94a3da8f8deabfb3d467b%7C0%7C0%7C638108547573456790%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=HSiJrYD%2B2NgDZQ3yHndBgFwQmZ87l4PjtqwdyyRf4Ko%3D&reserved=0> ________________________________ From: Joyce Hann <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2023 3:49:27 PM To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: [VA-HIST] slangenmuur I noticed that too! Joyce Hann On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 03:04:54 PM EST, Jon Kukla <[log in to unmask]> wrote: The serpentine walls at UVA have always seemed to be one of Jefferson's innovations, but I just stumbled upon this website documenting a slew of earlier (as well as more modern) examples of what 17th-century Dutch called slangenmuur—snake walls. . . . 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