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Lonny:  I also remember those Hampshire Co. records and that basement
storage -- reading faded ink is so unpleasant in bad light!  I think I
remembering hearing that microfilms had been made of the early county
records; perhaps the Archives of WV has them.

David Kiracofe

David Kiracofe
History
Tidewater Community College
Chesapeake Campus
1428 Cedar Road
Chesapeake, Virginia 23322
757-822-5136
>>> [log in to unmask]  >>>
Don't shudder at the storage. Some of Hampshire Co. WV records were
being
stored in the basement of the damp and dusty court house just a few
years
ago in Romney, WV. I have no idea whether or not the Archive of West
Virginia came to the rescue or not. These were early Hampshire Co.
Virginia
records. (AAAAAAGGGGGGHHHHH!)

The people of Romney were very attached to their records and didn't want
to
give them up - sighting how they were hidden from destruction during the
Civil War when Romney change hands some 60 or so times. (I can't
remember
the number). They wanted their records to remain in Romney. I never
followed
the story, so I don't know where the records are today.

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Kiracofe" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 10:55 AM
Subject: Re: Anniversary celebrations in the 21st century


> Once upon a time, I was in the Rockingham County Courthouse doing some
> of my dissertation research, and on the wall of the poorly ventilated,
> little attic room where the "historical" records were stored
(archivists
> may shudder now) was a typed notice that any gaps in records were
there
> because of General Sheridan.  There were also a couple of old photos
> showing some of the depredations in the area.  Here's a question,
then,
> did Sheridan target courthouses to destroy records?  I know the
British
> had done this duirng the American Revolution in 1780-81 -- hence the
> gaps in some of our colonial records.  Anyone know an answer?
>
> David Kiracofe
>
> David Kiracofe
> History
> Tidewater Community College
> Chesapeake Campus
> 1428 Cedar Road
> Chesapeake, Virginia 23322
> 757-822-5136
>>>> [log in to unmask]  >>>
> Mr. Bonis, there is no "fun" in the human pain and loss incurred on
all
> sides of the war.  One does not tastefully compare the devastation of
> war to
> the minor event of burning a supply train.
>
> Oh, yes, and wasn't Sheridan, at the orders of Grant and Sherman, the
> great
> Indian destroyer?  Oh, yes--- just following orders, like in his
> depredations in the Valley.
>
> If you want to poke fun at war, make it something humorous, like
> stealing a
> General's frock coat, or better yet, stealing a General himself.
>
> As to a Jamestown celebration, I doubt 2007 will outdo 1957 which I
was
> fortunate to attend, or 1907 for which I wasn't yet present.
>
> Joan Logan Brooks
> a Southside Virginian through 11 proven generations
>
> and a great-granddaughter of a Yankee too cowardly to serve the Union
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ray Bonis" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 9:55 AM
> Subject: Re: [VA-HIST] Anniversary celebrations in the 21st century
>
>
>>I was just responding with a little humor to Mr. Cabell's remarks who
>>wrote:
>>
>> "I'm hardpressed to think of any GREATEST since (reading of) Col.
> Mosby
>> welcoing Gen. Sheridan to the northwest corner of
>> Virginia by burning his supply train, north of Berryville."
>>
>> By the way, Gen. Sheridan (*Philip Hendry Shridan*) had a very fine
> time
>> in Virginia.      "Here he contested Gen. Early's Confederate troops,
>> destroyed crops which were the breadbasket of the Confederate army,
>> defeated and killed Gen. J.E.B. Stuart (famous cavalry leader of the
>> south) and eventually, in the battle of Cedar Creek, drove Early out
> of
>> the valley. As the war neared its end Sheridan was the leader in
> forcing
>> Gen. Lee out of his Petersburg, Va. defenses and eventually cutting
> off
>> his retreat at Appomattox Court House." [From
>> www.netpluscom.com/~pchs/sheridan.htm]
>>
>> He was a very effective Yankee General in Virginia.  Maybe if he
could
>> magically be in charge of promoting Jamestown 2007 celebrations the
>> prospects for its success would be much improved.
>>
>> Ray B.       ;-)
>>
>>
>> Joan Brooks wrote:
>>
>>> Mr. Bonis, please make your snide remarks elsewhere.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Ray Bonis" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 7:58 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [VA-HIST] Anniversary celebrations in the 21st century
>>>
>>>
>>>> Actually, the last GREATEST excitment was when Lee gave up and the
> North
>>>> won.  Now that was fun.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ray B.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Randy Cabell wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Very well said.  Maybe its just my getting older, but I also now
>>>>> really want
>>>>> to look into Virginia and family things within the larger context
> of
>>>>> what
>>>>> was going on.
>>>>>
>>>>> re the biggest "excitement" and the hope that Jamestowne things
> will
>>>>> heat up
>>>>> as we approach it, I say Amen.  Lets see...... our biggest
> excitement
>>>>> was...... hmmmmm.....  I'm hardpressed to think of any GREATEST
> since
>>>>> (reading of) Col. Mosby welcoing Gen. Sheridan to the northwest
>>>>> corner of
>>>>> Virginia by burning his supply train, north of Berryville.
>>>>>
>>>>> Randy Cabell
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 4:34 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [VA-HIST] Anniversary celebrations in the 21st
century
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I attended that conference in 2004 sponsored by the Omohundro
>>>>>> Institute
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> I thought it was interesting mainly because it did put Jamestown
> in a
>>>>>> global
>>>>>> context with information on other European nations, West Africa
> and
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> Native
>>>>>> Americans  that were here before the arrival of the British.
>>>>>> Jamestown
>>>>>> did
>>>>>> not happen in a vacum, the whole world was on the move and surely
> to
>>>>>> understand
>>>>>> Jamestown and the world that was created here can be better
> understood
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> the backdrop.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't know but I am going to assume that when we finally get
>>>>>> closer to
>>>>>> 2007
>>>>>> there will be other conferences held in Williamsburg &
>>>>>> Jamestown.......and
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> will be very appeciative if as a " local history buff" I am able
> to
>>>>>> attend.  I
>>>>>> will say that the Jamestown 2007 Steering Committee has their
work
>>>>>> cut out
>>>>>> for them because locally the biggest thing to happen in the area
> in
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> last
>>>>>> couple of years is the opening of the Bass Pro Shop off of 64,
> maybe
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> has now
>>>>>> be surpassed by the BRAC Commissions decision to close Fort
>>>>>> Monroe....let
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> Condo building begin.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Selma Stewart
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In a message dated 2/21/2006 9:23:50 AM Eastern Standard Time,
>>>>>> [log in to unmask] writes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What are we "celebrating," exactly?  The Omohundro Institute of
> Early
>>>>>>> >American History and Culture sponsored a very DEEP scholarly
> confer-
>>>>>>> >ence in 2004, almost ignoring Jamestown itself by placing it in
>>>>>>> global
>>>>>>> >context with West African tribal traditions circa 1607, etc.
> The
>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>> >conference on the Jamestown Commemoration website that I saw
was
>>>>>>> >focused on modern democracy.  Better not go there.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ray Bonis
>>>> Virginia Commonwealth University
>>>> Special Collections and Archives
>>>> James Branch Cabell Library
>>>> Box 842033
>>>> Richmond, VA 23284-2033
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>>
>>
>> Ray Bonis
>> Virginia Commonwealth University
>> Special Collections and Archives
>> James Branch Cabell Library
>> Box 842033
>> Richmond, VA 23284-2033
>> [log in to unmask]
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