>If you are so "proud" of being a 14th generation southerners, I suspect the
>arrogance is on your side,
Nope; I do not claim ownership of piety and an all-knowing sense of morality as your posts imply about yourself.
>It is not the first time that someone has
>implied that southerners are to be considered superior to those "D-Yankees".
I made no such implication. I merely responded to MY take on your post.
>When one sets aside the centuries of human abuse known as slavery, and looks
>at the continued abuse under the reign of Jim Crow, one cannot find a single
>redeeming grace.
Why would one wish to set aside the historic evils of slavery? I certainly do not wish to do so. If you would take the time to actually READ a post BEFORE you assumed the holier-than-thou position you so frequently assume, then you would find that I posted absolutely nothing about the slavery issue in my reply to your post.
You like to set double standards; on one hand you preach a need for universal freedom and on the other you would deny a person's freedom to disagree with ANYTHING you decide to be some foregone truth.
Like Paul Finkleman, I prefer to adddress the Civil War by what it was .. War of Rebellion; however, I do NOT believe I, nor you, have the right to deny others to call it what they wish. BTW, my Southern Grandmother referred to it as the war of yankee agression.
You canstantly espouse to the list community all those great and wonderful things you do. However, you, too often, jump on someone else's bandwagon. Have you ever considered being you? You may not be the most popular person by doing so, but you WILL come across to some people (not me unfortunately) as a bit more genuine. As for your website .. I've seen better. I've always been a student of quiet perseverance, but you seriously bother me with that carpet-bagger, self-righteous attitude.
As another poster said: Get over it ... or yourself.
My apologies to the list and should this post get me banned, then so be it.
R.B. Jenkins - Still proud Virginian
----- Original Message -----
From: Anne Pemberton<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 11:18 PM
Subject: Re: Richmond and VA slave Traders, plus Africa
Mr/Ms Jenkins,
If you are so "proud" of being a 14th generation southerners, I suspect the
arrogance is on your side, not mine. It is you who seems to be thinking that
one side or the other is superior. It is not the first time that someone has
implied that southerners are to be considered superior to those "D-Yankees".
When one sets aside the centuries of human abuse known as slavery, and looks
at the continued abuse under the reign of Jim Crow, one cannot find a single
redeeming grace. Last month I added Mildred Loving to my Famous Americans
website (http://www.educationalsynthesis.org/famamer<http://www.educationalsynthesis.org/famamer> )so that children can
learn to what extent people went to, to extend the arm of the government
into the personal lives of the governed (or at least those not lucky enough
to be born into the "right" race). Hopefully children will learn the horrors
inflicted on human lives when governments, federal or state, interfere where
they dare not tread. Perhaps Mildred Loving's story will convince more of
our youth that setting laws as to what race or gender can marry whichever
other race or gender, is unacceptable in a Land of Freedom.
Anne
Anne Pemberton
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From: "Hist Docs" <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
To: <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 10:25 PM
Subject: Re: Richmond and VA slave Traders, plus Africa
"The War of Northern Agression"
And why, might I inquire, would that be so "stupid" to many of us who have
VERY deep southern roots? I find a certain arrogance in your attitude that
suggests to me you believe yourself, and the "north" in general, superior to
we Southerners.
Glad we Southerners could provide you with a you laugh.
R.B. Jenkins
Proud 14th generation Virginian
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From: Anne Pemberton<mailto:[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]:[log in to unmask]>>
Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 9:26 PM
Subject: Re: Richmond and VA slave Traders, plus Africa
Tom,
I have described the bitterness I have seen in Virginia since this "D****d
Yankee" moved here forty years ago. I call it the Civil War, but have
heard
any variety of names, including the stupidest: The War of Northern
Agression. A sister moved to Texas a few years ago, and we had a good
laugh
over the way southerners try to make it sound like they were not at fault
for that bloody conflict.
Anne
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Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 8:14 PM
Subject: Re: Richmond and VA slave Traders, plus Africa
> Anne,
>
> I'm just sitting here wondering, are you bitter?
>
> Also, what name would you have us call the "Civil War?"
>
> Tom
> Eastern Shore & More
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