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Maitland,

         Thanks for the link. I explore it this morning and a bit more this
afternoon. I seems to be more of an "opinion" site than an informational
site. Many of the "frauds" he sites happened in other elections and after
Lincoln's death. The admission of new states is clearly not an "election
fraud", tho, if substantiated by hard facts, the posting of army soldiers
at polling places would be fraud. I'm undecided about the furlough policy
since it favored but did not exclude. A great deal of discretion was
granted the US Army Officers. Was it an official act of the Commander in
Chief, or was it something less?

         As to the opinion of the author, he has an interesting Journal on
his site which explained where he was coming from. The Journal for
Liberatarian Studies seems to be one of his projects. I learned long ago
that Liberatarian values and my values are at odds. I've read their
publications regarding education and know their facts are skewed and taken
out of context.

         Good luck on your move. It's been a long time now since I've had
to do it, but there were times in my life when I felt like I lived out of
carton boxes!

         I look forward to other sources and you get around to it. I'm not
teaching the civil war, but will be teaching Lincoln. My current emphasis
is on the sadness of his life which didn't prevent his greatness.

                                         Anne

At 02:11 AM 3/5/03 -0800, Maitland Westbrook wrote:
>Anne:
>
>I did a quick search under 'election 1864 fraud' and came up with many
>sites citing the fraud involved in the election.  This insert comes from
>http://www.mises.org/fullarticle.asp?record=554&amp;month=26
>
>Hope this helps for now..and when I find a site that offers a better
>examination of the elections, I'll forward it to you.
>
>Maitland
>
>
>--- Anne Pemberton <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > Maitland,
> >
> >          Can you recommend a better site?
> >
> >          Actually, the site opens with remarks about the fact that the
> > nation at war, and divided in the war, held an orderly election. The
> > site
> > says that the election occurred with "relatively little corruption".  In
> > looking at the scope and purpose of the overall site, it perhaps
> > suggests
> > that whatever "fraud" took place was not as significant as in other
> > elections ????
> >
> >          I think Lincoln was realistic. He was not the picture of a
> > president, and did not subscribe to the "polite" conventions of the "PC"
> > folks of his time. To paraphrase Davey Crockett (or his spin doctors),
> > "he
> > was sure he was right, then went ahead." It took some courage to agree
> > to
> > his nomination before Sherman did in Atlanta, but he had that courage,
> > and
> > it paid off.
> >
> >          Unless you know of better sites, I'll probably add this link to
> > my
> > student link pages. It's a useful source for students and teachers
> > seeking
> > information on the presidential elections, even if it has inadequacies
> > for
> > history majors.
> >
> >                                          Anne
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > At 07:30 AM 3/4/03 -0800, you wrote:
> > >The site refered to is a softshoe approach to the election of '84.  It
> > >doesn't cover the fraud, etc in the elections and under plays the role
> > of
> > >Sherman's actions in the Southeast.  This site is designed to preach to
> > >the choir and the PC minded of today and glosses over the full impact
> > of
> > >the election, most noteworthy due to the fact that for the first time a
> > >country at war actually held elections, and the great amount of fraud
> > that
> > >took place.
> > >
> > >Even Lincoln thought he would lose and only felt good about the
> > election
> > >after Atlanta fell.
> > >
> > >M. Westbrook
> > >
> > >--- Anne Pemberton <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > > > war expectations for the south than Lincoln did. Check out
> > > > http://elections.harpweek.com/4Overview/overview-1864-1.htm and
> > other
> > > > sites
> >
> > Anne Pemberton
> > [log in to unmask]
> >
> > http://www.erols.com/stevepem
> > http://www.educationalsynthesis.org
> >
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