Could this have been a "WITNESS" signature or someone who was acting as a
surety? Latin and Legal terms are not a strong suit.
JPAdams
Texas
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Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 9:02 AM
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Subject: Re: E.S. vs L.S. after a signature?
Good morning James or Douglas (what is your correct name?)
I am the researcher who obtained the marriage bond for Joan Horsley. It
does, indeed, have the letters "E. S." for the security. I vote for
"printer's error" here, as I have never seen this before. But then again,
we can always learn something new. I believe it should read "L. S." as in
all other documents, but who knows?
Thanks for you reply. You have covered the basics here and for that I thank
you.
Craig Kilby
On Jan 25, 2010, at 8:36 AM, James Burnett wrote:
> Good Morning Joan
> Hopefully negative info can be useful also. I looked this up in Black's
Law
> Dictionary, Third Edition, and while L.S. is there E.S. is not. I also
did
> not find it in Paul Drake's book "What did They Mean By That", 2003
version.
>
> Douglas Burnett
> Satellite Beach
> FL
>
> On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 2:06 PM, Joan Horsley <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:
>
>> Can anyone tell me what "E.S." stands for after a signature? I know that
>> "L.S." is for locus sigilli or legal seal, but I've never seen the "E.S."
>> and cannot find what it might mean.
>>
>> This "E.S." appears on a pre-printed marriage bond for Monroe County
>> (VA/WV) dated 27 Dec 1819. This printed form has blanks to be filled in
by
>> hand with the names of the two persons held to the bond, the current
>> governor. the man and woman to be married, plus the date.
>>
>> At the signature space, the first signature (the groom's) is followed by
>> the standard "L.S.", which is also pre-printed on the form. The second
>> signature (the security) is followed by the letters "E.S.", again
>> pre-printed. (Both names are signed by signature, not mark, and this
>> document appears to have the original signatures, not a clerk's copy.)
>>
>> Does the "E.S." really stand for something, or could this be a printer's
>> error?
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Joan Horsley
>>
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