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I noted, with some good humor, that in the article, Vince Haley takes credit for initiating the controversy over the Wren Chapel.  Why is it *attacking him in a personal and political manner*,  to mention his polical affiliation, which I assume he is proud of?  Integrity demands knowing the source and evaluating the source.  How can we evaluate the source, if we aren't even supposed to know the source? 
   
  [Ms] Langdon Hagen-Long
   
  
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  Vince Haley himself has historical information about Wren Chapel, not as 
detailed but probably as accurate and unbiased as that of Mr. McMahon's. It 
also seems his words should be presented for members of this list to see and 
absorb as Mr. Hagen-Long has brought him to task in a personal and political 
manner, apparently towards elevating his own liberal viewpoints. What of 
Mr. Haley's rationale and further concerns that recent actions will soon 
lead to additional related removals, such as the altar table, altar rails, 
the pulpit....and what about the alma mater if that can be made pertinent to 
this discussion? ...and his other concerns that seem legitimate to 
me.....and no more antagonizing and uncompromising than what I have read by 
the predominance in this discussion having liberal views.

Give Mr. Haley half a chance here, please, or who is being so unreasonable 
and uncompromising:

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NTk3Njc2MWM5OWNjZmY3MmNjYzUzMGJiNjZlZWFiY2E=

Regardless of what has happened over the years to the physical Wren Chapel, 
what is important are the heartfelt and mindful feelings of the place that 
were present at its beginning and that have since developed over 270+ years 
that makes its history so valued.

Thanks,
Neil McDonald

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Subject: [VA-HIST] The History of the Wren Chapel


> Numerous people have written about this building, suggesting
> that we need to be careful to preserve and respect its
> history. To evaluate that claim, it would be useful to know
> just what its history *is*.
>
> Absent that information, the best we can do is to make
> assumptions. But when we argue from unfounded assumptions, we
> enter into a rather detached realm of conjecture. Its an easy
> move, and one made by various participants in this
> conversation, to begin with assumptions, and then to wind up
> treating those assumptions as gospel truth later in the
> discussion.
>
> Does anyone know the history of Wren Chapel? Can anyone
> summarize it for the rest of us?
>
> Until we have an answer to this fundamental question, we
> simply are in no position to evaluate the suggestion that we
> should honor the building's history.
>
> All best,
> Kevin
> Kevin R. Hardwick, Ph.D.
> Department of History
> James Madison University
>
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