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I especially like the fact that they eventually brought slaves here -
how Virginian of them.

Jurretta Heckscher wrote:
> So to follow up on my previous message:  one can safely say that
> Jamestown was the first permanent English settlement in the Western
> Hemisphere.
>
> Let the fanfares continue, Randy!
>
> --Jurretta Heckscher
>
>
> On Nov 6, 2006, at 6:59 PM, gcg wrote:
>
>> Jamestown is the first permanent English settlement in the future
>> United
>> States of America. I believe we can safely say that. Glenn
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Discussion of research and writing about Virginia history
>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Randy Cabell
>> Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 09:41
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Raining on our Jamestown Parade?
>>
>> 'Jamestown -- The oldest permanent English Settlement in America(?),
>> in The
>> New World(?)',  between latitudes ___ and ___(?)   uhhhhhhhhh?????????
>>
>> Here, I have invested my twilight years in celebrating The Trumpeter of
>> Jamestowne, Jamestown 400, etc. only to pick up the paper this morning
>> to
>> find that somebody else settled up in Port Royal (Canada) half a decade
>> earlier.  What gives?  The article was a bit unclear as to whether
>> anybody
>> continued to live there, but I do know from visiting Port Royal a few
>> years
>> ago that it was an English bastion at some point.
>>
>> In his tongue-in-cheek history of Virginia, James Branch Cabell poked
>> some
>> good natured fun as us Virginians for trumpeting THE OLDEST PERMANENT
>> ENGLISH SETTLEMENT, which (1) ignored the fact the Spanish had
>> settlements
>> in Florida a generation earlier and (2) at the time JBC was writing
>> back in
>> the 1940's, almost nothing of Jamestowne had been found.
>>
>> Last Saturday, I heard just about the best talk on the meaning of
>> Jamestown
>> that I have ever heard - by John Quarstein.  In fact afterward, I
>> suggested
>> to the people at my table that we chip in and send him up to our New
>> England
>> Pilgrim Brethren to set the record straight on the heritage of
>> Jamestown and
>> our life in America today.
>>
>> Now, it looks like those upstart Canadians are trying to beat us out
>> of the
>> first permanent etc.......  What next?  Will the French say that a
>> small
>> party (un petite corps) settled Ft. Louisburg on the coast of Nova
>> Scotia in
>> 1606?  And how about the Dutch?  Will they claim that they really
>> landed a
>> large party (Den Grosse Kompanie)  at New Mastrecht in 1602?  Hey, and
>> how
>> about Henry Hudson?
>>
>> I guess I need a table (matrix?) of 'firsts' in the New World, so that
>> I can
>> safely make a statement about where Jamestowne fits in.
>>
>> Randy Cabell
>> The Trumpeter of      uhhhh.......  Boyce
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Ray Bonis
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Richmond, VA 23284-2033
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