Anne,
Have you read the book "Forced Into Glory:Abraham Lincoln's White Dream",
2000 (had three printings in one year), by Lerone Bennett, Jr; or "Lincoln
The Man" 1931, by Egar Lee Masters? And Mr has his own book, "The Real
Lincoln: A New Look at Abraham Lincoln, His Agenda, and an Unnecessary
War". I've only just started to read this one.
Mr Bennett's book is an eye opener; Mr Masters' book was bought by the
case and destroyed by Lincoln supporters. Both are well supported by
documentation.
I won't bore you with my thoughts of Lincoln, as I do not think he was a
great president, just a great politician. Mr. Master's book goes a good
deal in his early life and his entry into politics and his connections
with big business (ie, the railroads).
I too find that the Liberatarian values are bit off the scale, but I find
myself agreeing in about 75% of the time. However, his writings on the
WBTS and Lincoln are thought provoking.
Thank you for the good luck. I've moved here to get married (May 31). It
is a bit different from the US, but am having a great time. My finacee's
family is wonderful, actually, everyone is so nice - I may not come back!!
Well,,will have to come back, have to be buried in good ole Virginia
soil. :>D
Maitland
--- Anne Pemberton <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Maitland,
>
> Thanks for the link. I explore it this morning and a bit more
> this
> afternoon. I seems to be more of an "opinion" site than an informational
> site. Many of the "frauds" he sites happened in other elections and
> after
> Lincoln's death. The admission of new states is clearly not an "election
> fraud", tho, if substantiated by hard facts, the posting of army
> soldiers
> at polling places would be fraud. I'm undecided about the furlough
> policy
> since it favored but did not exclude. A great deal of discretion was
> granted the US Army Officers. Was it an official act of the Commander in
> Chief, or was it something less?
>
> As to the opinion of the author, he has an interesting Journal
> on
> his site which explained where he was coming from. The Journal for
> Liberatarian Studies seems to be one of his projects. I learned long ago
> that Liberatarian values and my values are at odds. I've read their
> publications regarding education and know their facts are skewed and
> taken
> out of context.
>
> Good luck on your move. It's been a long time now since I've
> had
> to do it, but there were times in my life when I felt like I lived out
> of
> carton boxes!
>
> I look forward to other sources and you get around to it. I'm
> not
> teaching the civil war, but will be teaching Lincoln. My current
> emphasis
> is on the sadness of his life which didn't prevent his greatness.
>
> Anne
>
> At 02:11 AM 3/5/03 -0800, Maitland Westbrook wrote:
> >Anne:
> >
> >I did a quick search under 'election 1864 fraud' and came up with many
> >sites citing the fraud involved in the election. This insert comes
> from
> >http://www.mises.org/fullarticle.asp?record=554&month=26
> >
> >Hope this helps for now..and when I find a site that offers a better
> >examination of the elections, I'll forward it to you.
> >
> >Maitland
> >
> >
> >--- Anne Pemberton <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > > Maitland,
> > >
> > > Can you recommend a better site?
> > >
> > > Actually, the site opens with remarks about the fact that
> the
> > > nation at war, and divided in the war, held an orderly election. The
> > > site
> > > says that the election occurred with "relatively little corruption".
> In
> > > looking at the scope and purpose of the overall site, it perhaps
> > > suggests
> > > that whatever "fraud" took place was not as significant as in other
> > > elections ????
> > >
> > > I think Lincoln was realistic. He was not the picture of a
> > > president, and did not subscribe to the "polite" conventions of the
> "PC"
> > > folks of his time. To paraphrase Davey Crockett (or his spin
> doctors),
> > > "he
> > > was sure he was right, then went ahead." It took some courage to
> agree
> > > to
> > > his nomination before Sherman did in Atlanta, but he had that
> courage,
> > > and
> > > it paid off.
> > >
> > > Unless you know of better sites, I'll probably add this
> link to
> > > my
> > > student link pages. It's a useful source for students and teachers
> > > seeking
> > > information on the presidential elections, even if it has
> inadequacies
> > > for
> > > history majors.
> > >
> > > Anne
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > At 07:30 AM 3/4/03 -0800, you wrote:
> > > >The site refered to is a softshoe approach to the election of '84.
> It
> > > >doesn't cover the fraud, etc in the elections and under plays the
> role
> > > of
> > > >Sherman's actions in the Southeast. This site is designed to
> preach to
> > > >the choir and the PC minded of today and glosses over the full
> impact
> > > of
> > > >the election, most noteworthy due to the fact that for the first
> time a
> > > >country at war actually held elections, and the great amount of
> fraud
> > > that
> > > >took place.
> > > >
> > > >Even Lincoln thought he would lose and only felt good about the
> > > election
> > > >after Atlanta fell.
> > > >
> > > >M. Westbrook
> > > >
> > > >--- Anne Pemberton <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > > > > war expectations for the south than Lincoln did. Check out
> > > > > http://elections.harpweek.com/4Overview/overview-1864-1.htm and
> > > other
> > > > > sites
> > >
> > > Anne Pemberton
> > > [log in to unmask]
> > >
> > > http://www.erols.com/stevepem
> > > http://www.educationalsynthesis.org
> > >
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