Well, hello there, Doug Deal!
What a pleasant surprise to see your name pop up on my computer!
Where on earth do you live now?
I've kept up, slightly, with your brother John and his wife, Gay, who are
still around here but I don't know where you are.....although I think you
are off doing college teaching, am I correct?
Thanks for putting in your two-cents worth regarding this discussion that
has cropped up and caused such a stir.
It is a pleasure to hear from you....even via the internet grapevine.
Fondly,
Deane Mills


Subject: Re: Sherman etc.


> On Thu, 16 Aug 2001, Anne Pemberton wrote:
>
> > Last year I taught fourth grade in summer school, including fourth grade
> > history, the history of Virginia, and was shocked to learn that although
> > the kids had learned about the Jim Crow laws, they had NOT been told
that
> > these laws were in force only in southern states, and were NOT the law
in
> > most of the country. Even with the little ones I usually work with
> > (Kindergarten to 2nd grade) I find myself correcting what the kids have
> > learned, to understand that some of the evils overturned with Civil and
> > Human Rights movements, existed only in the South.
> >
>
> I grew up in Tidewater Virginia (a bike ride away from the Fergusons, one
> of whom was a high school classmate of mine) but left for college in 1967
> and have since then lived in Massachusetts and New York. The Virginia I
> was leaving was still segregated in most respects, changes in the law
> notwithstanding. I mention this in order to offer a correction of Anne
> Pemberton's corrections (see above). Segregation and racial discrimination
> were common in much of the North, even though they had no basis in the
> statutory law of the northern states. The equal treatment laws (e.g., for
> public accommodations & transportation) that *were* passed in many
> northern states were rarely enforced. De facto, if not de jure, blacks
> were kept out of white neighborhoods, white schools, and the better jobs.
> In short, racial discrimination and injustice were (and are) national
> problems, not just southern ones.
>
> Doug Deal
> History/SUNY-Oswego
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